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TheChaosIsMee
mfs be like how far are you? real emo or real post-hardcore? bitch I'm far from happiness
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RetroGameReaper
Why are they even labelled as post-hardcore anyway? I like the ones I've listened to, but something like Circa Survive and Dance Gavin Dance sounds nothing like The Dismemberment Plan or Less Savy Fav. I'm honestly curious as to why they're called post-hardcore.
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thae_tuber
The tag certainly deserves to exist in some form as this is very different from the regular post-hardcore tag, but I feel like the idea of this being "real" post-hardcore is a bit pretentious.
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GoatUser
This is a good tag, mostly the older stuff like it should, plus it has basically the only modern day post-hardcore bands that are worth listening to (Blood Brothers, Glassjaw and 1 or 2 others). Still some weird shit though, like Avenged Sevenfold shouldn't be close to being here (Even if they were good, they're still not Post-hardcore at all, they're metalcore if anything), and neither should Orchid (they're just grindcore-esque Screamo, plain and direct). There's less nonsense than I was expecting though; I figured Converge would be here yet again even though they're not even close to being Post-hardcore, so good job.
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almostcookies
panduarlingga, i think texas is the reason can fall in with this tag. they're more on the emo side of things, but it's closely related. many of these bands can be tagged post-hardcore, emo, math rock, noise rock, etc. i think the point of this tag is to leave out the mislabeled garbage like A Day to Remember.
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FuzzyxPickles
you got it backwards, older post hardcore sounded more like "alternative rock"
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AprilPhantom
"But I mean, in my opinion, post-hardcore isn't "soft" and it isn't unncessarily "heavy" either." I agree, but to me Thrice, Thursday, etc. those bands turned the P-H sound into a much lighter sound, therefore they pushed it to straight up Alternative Rock, allowing bands to be post-hardcore without actual coming from Punk or Hardcore where these scene kiddies come from, IMO
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AprilPhantom
People on the regular post-hardcore shoutbox (which is shit) insist that this label is just another name for emo bands. I couldn't disagree more, Emo is now basically teen girl pop now but to me it's a semi-useless term, for me emo bands are bands like SDRE, Cap'n Jazz, Braid, The Van Pelt, Jawbreaker, Christie Front Drive, all those midwest emo bands etc. bands that came out of a fusion of hardcore and then 90's indie rock, bands that weren't as abrasive as either piece meal hardcore bands or any post-hardcore band. But you could tell bands like that came out of punk. Calling a band like Unwound or DLJ or Shellac or Frodus emo would be hilariously silly and wrong.
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AprilPhantom
I think Shelby's (Frodus's vocalist) has waaay better vocals than Daryl's, yeah i'd say they are closer to the screamo/converge style metalcore vocals. I think listening to bands like Orchid and Portraits of Past blurred my telling of which vocal style it is, but it all come from hardcore punk. It's your opinion though, so cool. You wouldn't consider Thrice then? because that band lost their heavier riffs by like their 4th album, and they were always soft to begin with. Never liked them at the slightest.
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AprilPhantom
sorry miserific, I like them, but I can see why you don't like them. It probably has to do with Daryl's vocals/lyrics, their first album mostly has the misogynistic vibe, their really early songs don't have that vibe and past Worship and Tribute their lyrics are mostly anti-religious than anything. I dunno how you can't admit how their guitar riffs, basslines and drum beats sound P-H cause they do to me. ATDI, Glassjaw, Thursday, and Thrice all were the catalysts for the sound moving to the awful scenecore shit unfortunately, I love the first two, Thursday and Thrice are too surgery and saccharine for me, most of the "energy" is tame as shit and they have too many pop hooks. Please don't lump people who like Glassjaw with misogynists, that would be like lumping all Mars Volta or Tool fans with the people who obsess over their lyrics and interpret stupid meanings out of them. There are probably mysoginist GJ fans but I sure as shit aint one, I love the fuck out of Riotgrrrl bands.
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AprilPhantom
miserfic, unsane are totally post-hardcore, I prefer their first two albums. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dCeMIUhlnw = death metal band Entombed covering Unsane.
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AprilPhantom
Uhhh he tagged Six Finger Satellite, who are defiantly a Post-Hardcore band miserific. Don't judge him by his name. You should have seen this tag a while ago, a dude by the name of xlackadaisicalx tagged every half ass hot-topic endorsed band with this, ugggh.
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