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voxmelodia
I love Dissection, and I like a good amount of melodeath. I don't know why, but I can't stand Reinkaos. It annoys me in some capacity. Not sure why.
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betteralone69
true. it's impossible to like trad metal and don't like reinkaos at the same time.
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SkullCrusher445
I'm a poser then I guess, I don't hate Reinkaos but it hasn't clicked with me nearly as much as Somberlain and SOTLB
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BeingofEvil
Jon, in an interview denouncing NSBM -- Question: What's your attitude to the nazi-trend in modern black metal? Several years ago everybody seemed to be a Satanist, either involved in magic or/and occult things. Nowadays most of these guys turned into fascists… fashion or…? Answer: Just belonging to a certain nationality will never make you superhuman. Simple racism or nationalism is nothing but just another herd-mentality for feeble-minded humans to, without logical reason, make themselves feel superior to each other in all their confusion, without having to accomplish anything at all but just being the mentally passive, easily-guided apathetic flocks of cattle that they are! (...)So, in cases like the one you mentioned where people are just following the trends, where there never was no essence, but only shallow forms and empty image, there would instead be stagnation and regression.(...)and nowadays the pretenders don't even pretend anymore! The weak has sorted out themselves!
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BeingofEvil
https://www.smh.com.au/world/accused-killer-12-linked-to-goth-site-20060428-gdng01.html -- real goths real emo shit. "VampireFreaks.com claims to have more than 500,000 members. The site features blogs and online journals by people with user names such as SuicideOfLove and RottingNails. Messages often focus on the despair and anger that members feel. Reports indicate that in the recent weeks the schoolgirl had abandoned a more conventional style for a darker, goth look complete with heavy eyeliner and make-up. One of her former teachers told the Calgary Herald she was "shocked" by the rapid transformation. The girl had posted several dark messages on the website with subject lines such as "WelcomeToMy TragicEnd" and "Are you stalking me? cuz that would be super". The girl's profile included pictures of her in dark goth make-up and described her as being 15."
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BeingofEvil
Dead was a hero, it's easy to kill another, but it's more difficult to kill oneself. Nodtveidt killed another person but he felt guilty that he's at large enjoying the benefits of life while it couldn't bring his victim back to life, he couldn't live happily with the fact that the justice system in Scandinavia failed and is such a farce. Why else did he kill himself as soon as he was released from prison? Perhaps he missed the gay friend he had killed and wanted to reunite with him in death? We'll never know the truth, all that is certain is that he decided to do the right thing, which the justice system couldn't do, namely to carry out the death penalty on himself.
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winter_demon
also fwiw, just playing the devil's advocate here, i would put the blame on the other weirdo who was the prime dorkitect behind the Nickolodeon lolsatanism that MLO actually was (come on... invoking the names of dragons why not Shenron?). A decade in jail and then your glorious comeback effort (possibly with increased MLO clownery [no mention of dwagons anywhere else]) not even coming close to a dingleberry worth of what you were actually about (sure, many flocked to heavy evil Satanic Linkin Park for being so metal! I mean Maha Kali rite?!) and maybe seeing the subsequent 'corruption of the legacy of your artistic output's essence' would be enough for an 'ultra trve sovl' to blow their brains out. And as far as the murder is concerned, you said it yerself, t'was a strange time in Norway. Anyhow not a Nazi.
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BeingofEvil
I think a lot of people confuse Tiamat with a dragon because this depiction was popularized by D&D, where she's portrayed as a giant dragon broodmother who has incestuous urges towards her brother, like Adam and Eve. And a lot of black metallers are massive nerds. There are also some conspiracy theories about a draconic lineage, stemming from a Templar sect of the "human progenitors" and related to reptilians. Canonically, it was the demon sphinx, not the dragon in the Western sense. But ignorant Westerners tend to call every monster a dragon, just as a small child would call a dinosaur a dragon. Oh and happy wood dragon new year y'all!
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Bleeeeeeding
guys at the comments will truly say they miss a nazi as they miss a dead family member
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winter_demon
Nothing in that shitty article that proves Jon Andreas Nodtveidt (28 June 1975 – 13 August 2006), a brilliant musician, was a nazi. I seriously don't see what you're trying to imply. did you even read it? is the act of making sense of words arranged one after too hard? Or perhaps you should consider that just because a leftoid made a post somewhere that called Jon a nazi without backing it up with anything other than 'muh feelings' and 'big scawy bawd fans' you shouldn't really believe everything you read on the Internet?
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winter_demon
last.fm's resident undercover deep state schizo rat future capital punishment receiver USES WIT It's not effective
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BeingofEvil
It is true that the "red scare" tactics narrative works less well when rightists or centrists refrain from constantly threatening the "commies"—you forgot to mention the cheka agent in your list. Deep state? Yes, we do rule over those things. Get ready for the Nu Wurl Orda! If they truly desire an ethnostate, they will establish one; Nazis would be transferred to a safe space (lebensraum) white only reservation in Madagascar (except from Zen masters, who are recognized as honorary cosmopolitan citizens).
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Bleeeeeeding
"In any case, Jon has been dead for many years on account of his suicide in 2006, and there remain ex-members of the band who have been caught doing things which reveal Nazi sympathies. For instance, Set Teitan has been seen doing the Nazi salute (though according to Watain, a band ST has also been involved with, the salute was a joke, not that that's much better) and Haakon Forwald is explicitly involved politically in national socialism. These band members were active only during the brief reformation of the band in the mid-2000s and were uninvolved with the band's most acclaimed, seminal work however."
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Bleeeeeeding
bro hang w extremists, bro plays w extremists, bro has extremist friends, but we can't call him extremist lol
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BeingofEvil
During one of his stand-up routines, Zelensky also performed the Nazi salute, and Russian propaganda depicted him as a Nazi since they believed that, sic Adolf Hitler was mostly Jewish.
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voxmelodia
You are in the wrong place. This is not your music. You will never belong here. Leave please.
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luis_punisher
R. I. P Jon, one of the greatest musicians in metal, I hope you are where you wanted in the after life ...
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DragonDance
So were you too young, too stupid or too obese to get sent to die in Ukraine, ruski?
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winter_demon
truly. Rest In Chaos forever King. Also, fuck all the ignorant snowflakes stinking up the shoutbox.
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PussyRipper
I can't define if Reinkaos is Black, Death or Heavy Metal, but this album is one the best metal album of all times.
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mourninghypnos
9450 scrobbles. Somberlain is their greatest album, with The Past is Alive showing the roots. Albeit the other ones are also frequent listens for sure
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RevCantAim
ill add to this by saying that their best track is something off of SOTLB or TS. Black Horizons or Night's Blood are my picks.
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threee1614
yes i remember meeting you. sorry about flaking out on those metallica tapes i promised
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Ladygagafanpage
Hello this is offical lady Gaga Fanpage how are my adorable dissection friends doing today? 🥰🥰🥰❤️
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BeingofEvil
꒰ঌ ˗ˏˋ🕯 𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖘𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖋𝖎𝖛 🕯ˎˊ˗ ໒꒱ You will never be forgotten, not by me. he was realist hard die fan... 2135 scrobbles.
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Necrophant
Plottwist: Reinkaos actually IS the best Dissection record and Jon killed himself because black metalheads are to incel to get it.
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Necrophant
It would be an 8/10 without the Amon Amarth type songs on it. Most Bands did that tho.
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vonNachtmahr
Absolutely agree. It was totally pointless to talk with him about music because he knew everything better anyway and he has the opinion that only his musical taste is the ultimate right. Furthermore he showed a certain hostility towards Germans.
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BeingofEvil
yes, the gay prince is gone, even though he was headstrong, he never imposed his opinion on others. i could freely discuss transsexual matters in his profile in the shoutbox as long as i kept it respectful to him. he was quite tolerant, although he deteriorated when indirectly influenced by others. if he had not compromised himself for the benefit of others, he would still be relevant today.
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knothead15
A man is driving down the road and breaks down near a monastery. He goes to the monastery, knocks on the door, and says, "My car broke down. Do you think I could stay the night?" The next morning, he asks the monks what the sound was, The man is disappointed but thanks them anyway and goes about his merry way. Some years later, the same man breaks down in front of the same monastery. The monks accept him, feed him, even fix his car. That night, he hears the same strange noise that he had heard years earlier. The next morning, he asks what it is, The man says, "All right, all right. I'm dying to know. If the only way I can find out what that sound was is to become a monk, how do I become a monk?" The monks reply.
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wormsaiboty
i can't understand how the 2nd album is the most boring and is the most loved by the fans
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Eleven-The-End
Storm of the Light's bane is not boring, it's damn near perfect, with the bonus tracks it is much better though, the Elisabeth Bathory cover is awesome, and Son of Mourning, and also Where Dead Angels lie demo version is better than the studio version, so get it with bonus track that album is fucking perfect
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llllloser
I don't mean to be rude, but out of your top 10 artists, there are very few bands that can be considered "extreme metal". So why do you think of yourself as an authority in the field? Please elaborate on why you think Dissection sounds like Iron Maiden--which, albeit not my cup of tea, are still a great band--or refrain from commenting at all. As we say over here, "it's better to shut up and look stupid, than to speak and confirm your ignorance".
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skalberg242
Jon was clearly influenced by Iron Maiden and you can hear it in many of the harmonies. However, Dissection is a unique entity and the overall sound obviously doesn't compare to Iron Maiden at all.
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wormsaiboty
just read interviews with the so called kvlt trve from Norway, I think you dont know their tastes and influences very much do you
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