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benarchives
this dude got mega cancelled and then released another album like anyone would care
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PROUDCATOWNER
last fm recommended this artist for me yesterday and i really enjoy their music so far, thanks last fm
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eliseisnotcool
they're still one of my favourites. Fuck Ace, but his dreamy sad music aint rape anyone
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BioNeon
love it. if i had to care about all what musicians do in their lives, i ll never listen to any music at all. i am catholic and i love black metal so bad. my fav bm band are Emperor and Faust killed a gay in the 90ies. what do i have to do? nothing. he left the band. so stop being so damn "peace and love". forgiving is the worst thing you can do to people who committ this kind of things
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DiffusedOctaves
Ayce should come out and speak for his actions. There should also be some investigation. Right now, he's at large and there's no sense of closure to the issue at hand. But I do believe there's nothing wrong in enjoying his music.
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ApolaHudson
I think it's tolerable to listen bands where one or several of its members are characterized by having attitudes of shit, but listen to a rapist ... That says a lot about the moral of a person. Someone can listen to something but isn't correct ignore to who is it listening. For reflection. (I was liked too but I'm not interested in give him more stage).
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Toma400
Well, didn't know the term, and I don't know how it applies to this matter.. like, you know, listening to rapist doesn't make you a rapist or someone who gives it a free hand? Like, you know, I love Acid Ghost, I like Burzum or David Bowie (murderer and rapist, respectively) Still, I will defend any woman from someone who wants rape her, and I feel disgusted for world where sex is thought to be more "awarding" than real love. So - what's more important, that I listen to bunch of murderers, rapists and other weird people, or what I think and show in the world in my behaviour? I understand a bit this way of thinking, but I don't see sense in it, unless someone is inspired by such artists to, for example, make mass murder or rape someone. I believe in exemplars changing world, not subliminal messages, and this is what I call real "morality".
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ApolaHudson
That's the issue, I believe that none of our actions are exempt from a political and/or moral component. That's why I think it's important to emphasize that giving more stage to rapists "just because they make good music and I like it a lot" is to naturalize these behaviors, like it or not. Not because a rapist is a great artist we're going to ignore that he is a rapist. In short, I think there's no way in which this gives a shit (and that's why I responded to teexander's comment).
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Toma400
Naah... explain me (you can do it on my shoutbox, if you want) how listening to something can *naturalize* behaviours? That sounds weird to me. Also, lately I found that I see bands/projects more like independent beings, so I don't connect band with people inside it. Same goes for movies (where I love so-called rapist Kinski), which are the universes in itself. I guess I don't want politics injected too much inside culture, which is more like escape from it for me. And I perceive personal morality far from politics, which is its opposition imo.
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Toma400
Maan, I'd be happier person not knowing this.. also how can this pestilence be everywhere. Looks like soon I won't have a band without any potential rapist in it. By the way, are they allegations or is he yet guilty after court case? (won't have enough courage to do deeper research)
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S_O_R_R_O_W_
i havent read anything about this going to court aswell...but due to the reaction of Ace Barcelon its most likely that the allegations are true.
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