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undeletable
Originally these were the songs for upcoming Stratovarius album, and the demo was recorded. Not long after that Tolkki left Stratovarius and used unreleased songs for the debut ReRe album. The demo could be found somewhere in the internet, and some of the songs with Kotipelto's vocals were officially released: Glkorious Divine as bonus for Japanese edition of New Era, and also Last Night On Earth, Revolution Renaissance and Heroes on ReRe's 2010 EP.
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onlycharles
Revolution Renaissance is much better than new band or "metal opera" from Timo Tolkki called AVALON, a lot... The RR first album is killer!!!!! Anybody here already have listened the "New Era" with Timo Kotipelto on the vocals ?
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undeletable
I've listened, and to be honest I prefer ReRe's version of New Era - because of more powerful vocals that on Strato's demo. Yes, this is just a demo, but I've got similar feeling regarding Allen/Lande's The Great Divide album. The music by Tolkki is nothing sensational, but it f*cking rocks with those two mighty singers; and when I try to imagine Kotipelto singing that, I understand that it wouldn't be killer as much.
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hurricane_mario
Why so few plays of "Crossing the Rubicon"? Probably the best RR song with the permanent line-up.
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MachineAnimal
Hate Revolution Renaissance and Symfonia. The only honestly great Stratovarius albums for me are Episode and Visions (and now Nemesis).
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Jewrusalem
"If you think Revolution Renaissance and Symfonia make good music, go listen to Stratovarius's Visions. NOW." Yeah, I did that. I still think RR and Symfonia kicked ass. But, hey, I'm the same guy who thinks the Strato self-titled destroyed Elements.
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Lionheartattack
And Episode, Destiny, Infinite, both Elements albums, and Dreamspace. Post-Stratovarius Tolkki can't even be compared to those albums.
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supertopografo
los felicito esta manera de oir musica es formidable me gusta lo que he descubierto gracias SUPERTOPO
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ironmaiden42
here is review of the last album...http://wyspajowisza.blogspot.com/2011/02/muzyka-stratovarius-elysium-2011.html
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hurricane_mario
well that's because Enforceris got the name wrong. It's http://www.last.fm/music/Symphonia
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hurricane_mario
A band called Simphonia already exists! M http://www.last.fm/music/Simphonia
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Enforceris
Predictions for Simphonia (goddamnit even writing that cheesy name makes me cringe): || 1. Half of song names will make no sense. || 2. Tollki will try to make the singer in album sound like kotipelto. || 3. Lyrics and style in same vein as age of aquarius || 4. Band will be disbanded after first two albums and tolki will create another one. ||
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Kleyguerth
Really late, but no one noted how that prediction turned out: 1 - Correct! || 2 - Correct! || 3 - Correct! || 4 - Almost! Band was disbanded after a single album and Tolkki created another one
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DaveTheTrain
And hes started ANOTHER band.. but with one of my fave vocalists of all time.. I'm happy and scared.. please Timo make this last.. :| Any bets?
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hurricane_mario
@ Meat_Wolf (and others) - Dance of the Death Star had no Timo involvement? I thought it was better than most of the album though. It didnt really fit with the album though. But I agree that Timo was the driving force behind Stratovarius. Polaris is an awful album.
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Enforceris
Into the Future with its folk-ish sound and interesting atmosphere is way more non commercial than crap like so she wears black or ghost of fallen grace. It did not have that annoying "liiiike us, we appeal to everyone" kind of forced commercial sound. It was nice and good song(although it would have sounded better with a better vocalist who had, you know, stronger voice?)
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Elevenofone
Too many slow-mid tempo songs make this band so incredibly uninteresting. Kinda glad they're disbanded. Oh, and, Enforceris, if you thought "Into the Future" was non-commercial, you have no idea what you're talking about. xD
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Enforceris
@Meat_Wolf Hmn, ill have disagree then. IMO nothing in this band sounded rightand only track "Into the future" sounded somewhat original, decent and non-commercial, so I thought of giving this band a three album chance of getting good. Sadly this is not happening and they are sinking even. This band is like....hm....Avantasia without "The Metal Opera" albums.
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JunglemanchiId
Average is the only word I can use to describe this band. "We are Heroes in the Night On our Way into the Fight We are Warriors of Light And our Hearts are pure" Thats awful.
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DenSvyrydenkov
I think that AOA was pretty good too. So TT has created some cool stuff already before Trinity.
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Enforceris
Just heard the sample and I think I agree with you on that. Not much difference from their previous album(s) sadly....
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Enforceris
Well that is not surprising, Certain stuff in Tirnity album sounded way too good to be created by trollki. (even if the whole album was generally mediocre.) Hopefully without tolki this band will manage to actually improve into somewhat listenable .
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hurricane_mario
People saying this is a bad singer... I love this vocalist but I agree, he sounds pretty bad on this album. I think it was just lack of time and effort put into recording from a band about to fall apart. Listen to "Adagio - Dominate (2005)" he sounds amazing there.
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GlovesElectric
Aha I know, man. I thought about it today, and this would be the second band that Timo has founded who have gone on to continue without him. I wonder who gets the money I spent on Trinity today?
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GlovesElectric
RIP RR. I don't believe it matters who performed the solos on AOA, because they pretty much sucked ass compared to anything from Strato anyway. TT is a better vocalist than the vocalist here, a better composer (obviously) and a far better guitar player. Such a shame, but we can always appreciate the music they made together.
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hurricane_mario
Why is I did it my way a one-hit-wonder? It's not even that good. Heroes, We are Magic, Last Night on Earth, So She wears black, into the future... just off the top of my head, are all better
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