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NivadaStrikes
It boggles my mind when someone disputes this being a 10/10, the original track listing (Which is how everyone should be listening to it) is just perfect, not a single dud, every song feels like it could of been a standout in The Fall's career if it had been separate, some of the greatest guitar work ever recorded, just extraordinary.
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CitoyenHarrison
As much as the bonus tracks are all great, they kinda kill the flow. The original version without them is perfect.
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MisterJunior
Also why are there two versions of TNG when the names appear to my eyes to be spelled exactly the same?
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MisterJunior
I hate to use such a stupid word but I can't help feeling this one's a bit... "overrated." Don't get me wrong, it's a terrific album and a few of the tracks are among my favorite Fall tunes ("Barmy" is one of their best rockers, "My New House" rules and what can be said about "Paint Work" other than "it's fucking brilliant?" What other band (MES) could make a lo-fi tape experiment that not only does amazing things with sound but is also extremely catchy?) but I don't see where the bulk of the tracks are all that much better than those found on their other albums of the period. So yes, it is a great album, but I'm tired of the lazy acceptance of it as the undisputed masterpiece of the band. I'd rate Hex, Grotesque and Perverted by Language well above it from an objective "These are better albums" standpoint and from a personal preference perspective I'd rather listen to The Frenz Experiment, The Wonderful and Frightening World Of... and probably Bend Sinister. And that's just the 80s.
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neverlateagain
[maybe i shouldnt care enough to reply to a 3-year old comment but what the hell] how would Perverted be objectively better than this? a lot of the songs there are painfully overlong and the production is notably worse than both Hex and This Nation's. like it's a good album but no way Garden or Tempo House should be 8 minutes long. this one, in contrast, doesnt waste a moment. maybe What You Need is kinda eh but everything else is delightfully energetic, dark and even dance-y (!) at times
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MisterJunior
Eh, replying after a year or two is standard on here with how many people have either jumped ship or barely use the site anymore. Anyway, really? Part of the charm of The Fall in the 80s (pre-poppy period) is the long, droning epics like Garden, Tempo House, Winter, C'nC S-Mithering, The N.W.R.A., etc. I suppose it's just down to our having different tastes in Fall albums. Oh well.
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TescoSwabs
Yeah, this was my first Fall album too, but probably my least favourite (from the albums I have heard so far). Still a good album though.
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_KevMusic_
I keep on forgetting just how *solid* this album is. And Paint Work in particular is an astonishing track.
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martinbizarro
My American mates are going on about the World Series, calling it a "Fall classic." Wrong. THIS is a fall classic!
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SteveDaffern
Not one bad track, not even an average track. My favourite Fall line up, the rhythm section on this album is one of the tightest you'll ever hear. And John Leckie's production is perfect. I suspect that Smith might think it is too well produced! But then I would never presume to have a clue what MES thinks of anything. LOL!
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OneSalient
[url=http://www.last.fm/group/The+Mouse+Trap+-+Ride+fans/forum/88695/_/422635]Now listen here[/url].
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OneSalient
I love the title "Gut of the Quantifier". A quantifier is someone who measures something accurately. Using his "gut" means he is measuring something by guesswork.
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