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pheberryfab
people cant handle the fact that she grew up and went from romance struggles to real life struggles.... almost like as if when you get older you realize men ain't shit!
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Myragem
I think that it's still better that she raised her voice against pollution and environmental issues. Other peers like Taylor Swift definitely has immense impact on the environment, with selling millions of copies of vinyls with different covers, tons of merch and using private jets for short distances. Marina is nothing like that and I think that a lot of people tend to be so "green" yet they do things, which harm the environment without even realising it.
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minkichi
I agree, other artists definitively set a much worse example. I just hold Marina onto higher standards, as she claimed to be so environmentally conscious, whereas I’ve never seen Taylor pretend to care about the environment while destroying it (but I’ve never followed that closely what Taylor posts, so I might be mistaken about that)
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minkichi
But yeah on the subject of Taylor, I do feel a bit iffy listening to her too because of these exact things. Idk if it’s worse to promote a good message and act otherwise (Marina) or live a very consumerist lifestyle without any critique and setting a horrible example (Taylor). Probably the latter, so I do see your point 😅
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molochthagod
Yeah, men ain't shit, all they did was built the civilization and invented almost every technology you use, including the computer or phone you're typing this dumbass comment from.
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J0PFM
idk, this is the same thing people said when solar power came out, “you guys are just mad that shes happy now!” i feel like those sorts of people are a very small portion of the people who have drifted away from these artists current music. people noticed her music change when she dropped & the diamonds, and it felt fitting that she changed her name because she doesn’t really sound like the same artist. it feels like even marina knows that. theres nothing wrong with that but ofc some people will drift away from a change in sound. i dont think all of her older music is just “relationship struggles” and all of her current music is “real life struggles”. i think both eras are a little bit of both presented in different ways, and a lot of fans miss how it was originally presented. tl;dr her sound changed a lot and people probably wouldnt say anything about “bad lyrics” if not for how it sounds
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Rain_Dreamer
i really loved a few of her old songs but now her stuff is just straight up horrible. sad.
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Rain_Dreamer
eh not a huge lana fan actually. however you can bash me for being a morrissey stan ig
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clavis_aurea
what's your point? lana has only gotten better over the years. btd is a joke compared to her recent albums. marina has also grown immensely, i had no idea some consider her last two albums to be "inferior," they are her best work by far.
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nesteacookie
The fact that MARINA regrets making LOVE + FEAR makes a valid point for your statement, however ADIAML is an amazing era for her.
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nesteacookie
While she stated in an interview during 2019 that songs like "Orange Trees" and "Enjoy Your Life" had been written after the decision she had made an album because it gave her some kind of joy and more creative approach for making an LP, she stated in 2021 during ADIAML interview that she "felt so deeply depressed and so lost for a good two years that I tried everything to get out of it," and "Songs like 'Orange Trees' and 'Enjoy Your Life,' they were just desperate attempts to create happiness in my life because I didn't have it.". Considering the fact that Baby was made by Clean Bandit and she was dating Jack Patterson back then, the album feels lackluster, what Diamandis stated herself months after the product was done.
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arturianski
I don't think she would've said that hadn't the album been hated by her fanbase. She just cannot handle having had made decisions in the past which did not succeed, vide Shampain or Radioactive, and then goes on claim it was someone else's or she was not 100% sure. it's alright but what we know L+F could've been made way better.
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clavis_aurea
literally, i am so shocked to see this. thought it was a consensus that marina has only come out with better quality material over the years. shocked to see so much love + fear hate here, it's an incredible album.
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IceSpoon
Dear people who know stuff, I have a question: Is this the same artist as "Marina and the Diamonds"? Is "Marina" like a solo project of "M and the Diamonds"? (as in, the same artists who made albums under that name), I want to clean up a few scrobbles and be sure where is what and how is when.
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and_lucena
Marina & the Diamonds was her "solo name", she changed it to "Marina" only. It's the same artist anyways. All her old materials are tagged as "Marina" now on music streamings.
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death_silver
Fucking, why different artists pins to this shit and fucking pop music? Still waiting for admin added function to separate normal groups from the shit
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poly-chronic
i miss her. i want her to tour every year with different setlists. She's amazing and I am thirsty for new music. All of her albums are amazing and show a different side of hers and reflect her life. FROOT has a special place in my heart<3
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ATOMICFLARE
i started to really love her music around that era, FROOT. 2015 was such a perfect era for her. nowadays i just... don't love her recent music. it's good, but it's not as unique and strong as that particular era for me.
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Spectrobyss
everyday i pray she hasnt peaked cuz i cant bare thinking that ill never hear something as good as electra heart or froot again
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misstatixo
lana del reycist stans shouldnt speak, shes as racist or almost worse than taylor
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AloneAgain0r
give us the third song in the trilogy containing Oh No! and Venus Fly Trap queen
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tonokivvy
to all that have an issue with the name change, she said she did it because it really felt like a natural progression in her career. she felt that marina and the diamonds was more of a creation, whereas MARINA is just Marina, being MARINA. i think it's best to respect her decision with that instead of acting all pissy about it. it is her own choice she made for her own career
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reallyswellgal
She should’ve just used her full name tbh. “Marina Diamandis” has so much star quality and sounds closer her stage name than “Marina” on its own
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