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Lionheartattack
Also, I loved Noble Beast's singer. He, too, has many things in his arsenal. I love his pseudoclassical "civilized falsetto" to end the namesake song! :D You can also hear it from the singer that these guys worship bands like Guardian. ;)
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Lionheartattack
A trve ug metal friend of mine in real life said the same. :( Well, it works wonders for me! Maybe I hype it too much to others so they get disappointed. :P
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Lionheartattack
Sorry to spam you more even if you haven't answered to the previous one yet, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3XYx5hHq5g. Dat song, dat singer! Verses: Andy Mück, chorus: Rob Halford, sometimes: elderly Biff Byford? Not bad. :P One of the best new metal songs for me for a while.
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Lionheartattack
Greetings! Ah, at least one other person has noticed Noble Beast. Your thoughts? I think it's ridiculously awesome. Like putting guys from BG, Iron Savior, Running Wild and a couple of US Power bands in the same room and telling them to make a dream album, plus these guys are young and still sound ambitious and energetic too! .____. Not too polished, and I think the best new album I've heard in years!
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Lionheartattack
Well, I like all things Hansi. On AtEoT, the singing is better than with previous two albums, if only because he doesn't double (and triple, and quadruple, and...) ALL his vocal layers anymore. He has changed to more prudent output, too, from those more aggressive years of youth. And production sounds better than on Ayreon - 01011001 where it didn't suit his voice at all. I think anyways that his best (and most aggressive) vocals ever were on Imaginations. :) Good point on Run for the Night - he did that kind of stuff in the past, I didn't remember! Also, damn the egos of the guitarists! >:/ That every guy had something to say on how their own instrumental parts turn out would be the right way to go! :)
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Lionheartattack
Btw, I don't even think many power metal singers are actually tenors... their base frequency and normal speech voice often don't seem high for men. I think they're baritones more often, but they've just practiced to get a strong high register. :>
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Lionheartattack
Yeah, much like what I just posted about Kai Hansen in Helloween's shoutbox. How he actually learned to sing very quickly somewhere between him feating on Tales from the Twilight World, and taking lead vocal duties for Land of the Free. (Although I already liked how he sounded with his awful technique in early HW/BG. :P Good attitude!) But Hansi is still a whole different matter... From a poor random shouter to a god-like singer! :D You can hear his progression album by album though. I think it's more or less still continuing you know! He's still finding new things to sing, and some of his registers keep getting better (the "lunatic fears the unknoooOOOOOOWN" from Tanelorn (Into the Void) - holey sheit! :I) -- Wait, the singers don't write their own singing melodies? They don't even ask the guitarists that "hey, could I sing this-and-this instead of The Same Old Shit, I'd like to really challenge my voice. Would add much-needed variety and personality to our song"? Such awful guys! ;D
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Lionheartattack
Do you have any explanation as to why the singers normally don't change their technique, intensity, etc., during a song? Something that Hansi Kürsch does constantly. Are the songwriters and singers that unimaginative or what is it; do they even have the SKILL to do it? Why does power metal have to have so many patterns-written-in-stone, and some ridiculous presumptions such as "the singer must only sing loud and high all the time, everything else is wrong", or that the song cannot change at all as it progresses? That is something only reserved to the longest song of the album. Whereas Guardian's songs do so constantly, and they still sound as good and natural that, hell, people don't even realize to put the "progressive metal" tag next to their music! ^^ Guardian if anything is progressive metal; people just don't know what it even means. It's become a genre for bands with similar styles as DT, SyX that, in the end, aren't necessarily even as progressive as BG, Wuthering Heights...
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Lionheartattack
Saw you've listened to Zouille & Hantson too. God dammit Zouille's voice is still going strong after 30 years! \,,/ ^_^ Can't really comment on Hatnson as I don't know Satan Jokers that well. He hardly sings leads anyway... The new songs (or what are they; those English ones anyway) don't seem that bad either. :)
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Lionheartattack
Hiya! Do you know of the Russian black metal band Ashen Light? This song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOZdTKCRT4A is a bit of a phenom with a couple of my friends. One hates the repetitive keyboard lead very much and that's why I always play him the song. D: What say you about the singer? At least he's got attitude! :D
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Lionheartattack
Amidst my personal freaking out in the PM department I feel like linking you this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDZuPqBjk0 I'd guess you know the clip. Royal Hunt - Last Goodbye from the live album "1996". D.C. Cooper is so freaking amazing on this one! Damn it looks so easy when one can really do it! ^^ Wanna see Royal Hunt live one day now that they're with Cooper again, if the live performance of the whole band is nowhere near that relaxed and easygoing! :) This performance is so symphatetic! :D Also hooked on that song! So very catchy, yet I'm a complete fan of its melodic structure too! :D
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Lionheartattack
Okay, so it was my imagination... Wonderful drawings and models! Hearing me doing Chris or Geoff vocals could take a while since I have no equipment nor conditions to record them. :)
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Lionheartattack
Also, is it just my imagination or did you just turn 27? o_O If so, congrats! :)
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Lionheartattack
Yes, the facial expressions seem one of those things that are learned from the model. Maybe many singers don't even recognize this, but normally they do faces because of their idols do, not because they'd have to. :P Then again, classically-trained singers hardly never do faces -- it's not a custom there. Okay, I guess people just usually imitate James Hetfield's rasp mannerisms (and very well at that) with their throat. Chris definitely forms the sounds somewhere in the throat, and I tend to agree: I know no other vocal style as consuming as the "Boltendahl sound" in falset. It's only followed closely by the "Boltendahl sound" without falset! :D Have spoken with a couple of friends with it: neither have I any idea how he has managed to retain his style all these years even as well as he has... I wear out after maybe one song when I'm singing what I consider sounding like Chris. :P
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Lionheartattack
Then again it could only require a certain setting in the vocal tract. I can do it a bit with low volumes, but not when I have to sing loud.
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Lionheartattack
Okay, I thought the lip movement gave away the affectation of the vibrato. I'm okay with your version though. :) About why I feel like I can do some rasps and some I don't... Chris's and in particular James Hetfield's own are formed in the throat. I can't determine what articulates, tremulates, against what, but it's in there, and it's really wearing (at least for me, at least the way I do it. And some of my friends, too. You know, the way people imitate James Hetfield's line-ending "-AH~!s". WHISKEY IN THE JARROUUWWAH~! :D (Near-)growls.) Whereas those more traditional, "bluesy" rasps, I think, are formed somewhere completely else. At least for me they seem less mimicable. Or at least I have no idea how to keep them going. Even where in my vocal tract to form them! I always thought it is a more natural feature of one's voice, not that easily learnable. That it is possibly voiced somewhere deep in the vocal tract. Possibly even having something to do with saliva secretion? :D Dunno.
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Lionheartattack
That said, I have extreme difficulties if I try to sing anything with my "own voice". I either don't know what kind of voice that should be, or it just sounds horrible! :D But isn't singing even consciously (or rather, not consciously) changing your voice towards more appealing one, having acted mannerisms? Let's say a singer controls his/her vibrato as I sure as hell can do as well. Isn't it so that it's not usually some "natural" vibrato, but the singers create it on purpose? Metal and even opera singers are usually seen moving their lips and throat in time with the vibrato. Many things like that. Isn't singing just voice acting in the first place for almost everyone? Picking up, practising and combining mannerisms? Not sounding as "natural" as possible with your "own" voice (if there is such a thing). I usually feel like people who can't sing more like don't have the nerve to throw themselves in such an "actor state" as singing would require, than actually lacking the needed talent.
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Lionheartattack
Tate is a completely different thing to sing than, say, even Dio. Dio is pretty close to my natural pitch; I think my head register has grown to be my strongest and most natural since I've tried to sing Kotipelto and Kiske stuff in my youth. :P I could do those pretty legit a few years ago, but since that, I think, alcohol and age have taken the necessary juice away from my high pitches. :( With Tate, however, I feel like I'm using my diaphragm more actively...? It even feels that the mindset I take (i.e. which singer's mannerisms I'm trying to do) even defines what my vocal range is at what time...? With "Tate" I can produce pretty high notes without falset, for example. One type of voice I can't produce at all, however, is this natural rasp like Jorn Lande, for example, has. Or how Hansi Kürsch easily switches between the cleans and rasp on the fly; I have freaking no idea how anyone's capable of doing that! Wouldn't flatter myself though; just copying those singers, good or bad.
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Lionheartattack
One more thing, random one: there seems to be a running gag amongst the Finnish metal heads that Shelton actually sings "lost in the kraaaapulaaas". It really begins to sound like it when you think about it, at least for the Finnish-understanding ear. :P "Krapula" means 'hangover'. :D
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Lionheartattack
Very pleasant sounding, his voice! Funny as it sounds, the overall soundscape on Crystal Logic album brings to my mind something filtered through some kind of an old long-distance phone sound packaging. I mean the phones used by army/police before the cell phones came. Vocals included! :D
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Lionheartattack
I instantly loved his nasality! There's a popular Finnish oldies artist named Kirka who have this pretty nasal one too. What a rock voice; resembles much Andi Deris' voice if you ask me! Luckily he has two hard rock albums too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuJUBBgA1Hk . So I guess it's mainly because of these two guys that made me understand The Shark's vocals right off the bat! :) Me... I sing a bit myself. Not anywhere no, but I think I could. I'm more like an imitator than an actual singer anyway. I can credibly do anything from golden age Geoff Tate to Dio to Hetfield to Boltendahl's(also his youth's "Boltendahl-rasp sound" plus falset, although it's technically horrible and I can't last long doing it!) to some nose cavity work... :D and I find this Shelton sound very easy and comfortable to sing. :D
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Lionheartattack
Yeah, the songs on the album Revolution Renaissance... uhm, correction, New Era, mainly aren't half bad. There is still some freshness in it. Maybe it's still the influence of those other great musicians and Strato members? Anyway, I guess it's the production and the no effort performance of each vocalist that have made me dislike the album more than to like it in the end. (Say, 3/5; 7/10.) That group should've done SO much better! There are also some letdown tracks that completely crash the glimmer of hope the previous songs might've brought, namely A Pale (Version of the Classic Song) That Wasn't Ri- uh, I mean Keep the Flame Alive, Soul of a Vagab- Revolution Renaissance, and the absolutely NOT ambitious very naive "hit songs" like I Did It My Way. Heck, even We Are Magic and Last Night on Earth. I can carely take that simple songs anymore! :D Overall, the album is very... plastic. All round plastic.
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Lionheartattack
And just now noticed your Aria reply... Haha, awesome! I'm very much looking forward to hear those two albums! ^^ The friend I talked about also recommended them. Will also be paying attention for possible loans and steals! ;) And yes, I've already noticed: Kipelov's a great singer!
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Lionheartattack
Seriously though... Tell me, as a vocal coach... where do the voices like Russell's and Rob's come from? o_o Are they some one-(/two)-of-a-kind naturals, or could anyone with a pretty much normal male vocal range (~say, some typical 2(+)-octave baritone voice) practise their voices to become such powerful killers? :D At least in theory, and with right exercises?
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Lionheartattack
Me. Every single one of his 80s - 2005 songs have been very important and dear to me. After that, he turned outright bad. The energy and feeling is gone, and he seems to have no clue what he's doing, stealing WAY too much from (mainly) his old melodies, recycling them to death with a bad taste, and thinking that maybe no-one noticed. Heck, maybe he doesn't notice himself; it could be subconscious and he could think he is creating new melodies. Many don't notice. Some reviewers even take his older "loans" as some "fresh winds from the past; I think I can hear some older song there and it's so cool!", but I don't, since I outright know his older music too well, and feel that anything he has done post-Stratovarius has been spiritless, empty shells, just using his past ideas again but very poorly. We'll see how it goes with Avalon though. At least the Kiske clip is full of epicness, and you can't go wrong with HUMONGOUS power voices of Allen and Rock, nor with Sharon's classical beauty! :)
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Lionheartattack
Yup! Feels like an outstanding band! One of the many more "ug bands" (except maybe in the east) that formerly made me go, "I know the name, but not the music (yet)". :) Now I know two albums -- and I think that Hero of the Speedway thing sounds better than the door-opening debut! What a great album! I once again have to thank this friend of mine who writes a blog about these less known metal bands. :)
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Lionheartattack
Oh, congrats! I was also invited to the second stage of the logopedics entrance exam... I think there were about 300-400 applicants, and 44 was invited to the second stage. 30 will pass and begin in the subject where they will become qualified spoken-language therapists... I'm kinda excited right now! :D I'm so close to my dream... Anyways, yeah, I don't know what more there is to say. I dig Sanctus's song structures and especially those synth sounds very much. Welcome to the Graveyard, the third song from the demo you've heard 2/3 from, is also excellent!
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Lionheartattack
Two random recommendations; I don't know if you know the bands. First, Great Britain's gift to the metal world, San Remo, with his awesome synth sounds and song-writing skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9JWsPJrtA . Too bad this Sanctus group never got to record an LP. I can't imagine why they didn't get a contract. :( His other band, however, Marquis de Sade, did. The other one is Carrion (later known as Poltergeist), Swiss speed metal madness from the time their original singer hadn't yet fully realized how bad (but fitting and thus awesome!) he was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fqDH0gITk . What do you think? :D
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Lionheartattack
Afternoon. :) The "quest" is coming along nicely, although I'm in a hurry myself so not that much time for music right now. And yeah, what a shame -- would've loved to see the original line-up back! The little I've listened from here and there from Dance with the Witches and Witchcraft albums are still good music, though!
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RoverTheGreat
Привет! Может вам будет интересно почитать эксклюзивное интервью со шведскими хеви-треш металлерами DENIED в составе которых вокалист немецких хард рокеров Jaded Heart: http://www.froster.org/sections/article-324.html
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Lionheartattack
Wat? I'm actually listening to Elvenking right now. Not the new album, but Red Silent Tides (2010) that was the newest on Spotify. And I'm glad to say these guys sound far less a basic power metal band than I thought, and that's only a good thing! :) They sound easy and pleasant, somehow. They sound ALMOST their own kind of folk/prog/power, although not quite. Still something very unique is missing -- awesome songs? These ones are "only" good. The singer isn't that miraculous, yes, but his voice doesn't bother me. There have been some parts where he sounds worse and a bit unfitting, whereas I think he sounds absolutely great at other parts! Usually he's in between these. :P I think it was the second track The Last Hour that was a very great vocal performance from him! Although nothing that special, definitely this band is a pleasant surprise for me!
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Lionheartattack
It's too bad Luppi left the Finnish Thaurorod because of this job at SS, though. :( Oh, and maybe I'll check the new VD. Maybe. And "check". :P And ohkay, glancing at some recent song titles, Elvenking don't seem that overly-Tolkienish actually. Perhaps I'll give them listens / somewhere in time. :)
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Lionheartattack
Are you saying Fabio Lione actually sounds good on new VD? I kinda liked 9 Degrees... from them, but Fabio is just a shadow of his former self (and Luppi) on vocals and the songs were only decent/good, nothing spectacular. With these in mind, and me not being the biggest VD fan anyway, should I even listen to the album, or more like go to 80s and search and roam some "classics" I've yet to hear? :) Elvenking... I haven't really listened except for a few random songs, and they seem even too fairytale/dragons for me! :D
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Lionheartattack
Okay... After two times through Clash of the Gods my impressions are along these lines: too little variety in songwriting compared to The Clans..., and the songs mainly keep getting interrupted by some wtf?-parts that don't fit into them. Walls of Sorrow for me is BY FAR the best song of the album; even if it loans some older GD tune too much I don't know which one. (Unlike Call of the Sirens which is too much Keeper of the Holy Grail and The Dark of the Sun to justify it being its own song, period!) Also, The Last Supper syndrome: huge riffs definitely are there, but for me they feel like lacking substance, interest, energy. They sound heavy, Digger, everything you'd ever wish, but they mainly are not memorable nor "kick-ass". Chris... sounds better than I expected, didn't find many new major flaws like my first impressions from the bridge of Home at Last was, but still maybe his worst studio album vocals ever. Some songs okay, 1-3 good/great, others boring. Sadly, they lack steam. :(
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Lionheartattack
Yes, an "AWRIGHT!!!" every now and then is a complete must for old school German metal! :D (And I guess any metal for that matter; notice at least Metallica - Seek and Destroy!) Other than that, I'm not going to comment, yet. I'll "move" to my uni town tomorrow and I guess I'll listen to the new album one of those days after my arrival there.
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Lionheartattack
Yeah well I was listening from the EP already that his voice is even about to collapse every now and then; I think I shallowly mentioned it to you as well. 0.o That's unfortunate to hear; I still haven't listened to the album though. This actually makes me doubt whether I even should buy it. I think I'll "check it out" first. (I think that's the term that people use nowadays when they don'r really want to address which way they'll get their music; "I'll check them out!". :D)
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Lionheartattack
Another very late reply: no clue about Kiuas. I saw them live I think it was last year, opening to Turisas. They had some foreign Dio imitator guy as the vocalist... I can't bother to check his name, he was reasonable though and didn't try to be either Dio or Ilja too much. It was his first gig with Kiuas, it was one day after Ilja had left! D::: What a disappointment! I kinda liked Lustdriven as well, but never really been into the band. While I like the album at least somewhat, I feel they have become this basic, plastic-sounding whatever-metal-band with it. Lost a bit of their edge there compared to my favorite, The Spirit of Ukko. Which, again, I don't worship or anything. :P Wouldn't attend a Kiuas show; I was only there for Turisas.
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Lionheartattack
And why did I ever ignore your Scanner comments? I only know a friend who recently got into it and wants to play it to me! :P He described it "proto-Gamma Ray", which I thought sounded great! We will play Gamma Ray's live album Skeletons in the Closet in the process which he has never heard in turn. :) (Absolutely killer live album! I think it's my favorite of any live albums, outdone only by Blind Guardian's DVD).
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Lionheartattack
Thought of mentioning... When I listened to both Marriages through with lyrcs in hand, I didn't get anything from the (possible) concept. :C Just why I'm too bad at reading anything very artistic anyway... too cryptic? Requires very much thought and interpretation? Only Invictus helps with the concept even a little, explicating the dialogists (is that a word? :D), and telling about the plot, timescale not being linear, and such in the liner notes. I'm very bad and even uninterested in decrypting Marriages... if there even is much to decrypt. @v@ On a lighter note, I just saw [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8rzkCkFIus]this[/url] for first time in a while. As usual, laughed very much to its sheer absurdism, even though I rarely chuckle at anything I only see via computer screen! :D And such I MUST listen to Tunes of War tonight! :DD
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Lionheartattack
Phew. Amazing, period. I have nothing more to say. David DeFeis and Edward Pursino truly know how to make the listener feel so small at the mercy of their gigantic expression!
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Lionheartattack
Okay, so it must've been with WCW then. Anyways, whoa, those two were such amazing albums! Especially Part II from Prometheus the Fallen One to the end, it must've been the best row of songs on any VS album I've ever heard! And Emalaith was huge indeed, full of different and climatic feelings, but I couldn't really process it that well as of yet, I'll need more listens. :D This far wasn't as good as Veni, vidi, vici for me -- the climax(es?) was(/were?) not so big, and the chorus was a bit letdown next to the huge "WE CAME! WE SAW! WE CONQUERED YOU ALL!" etc. ;D
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Lionheartattack
Thing is, I haven't heard Trapped!, although I have heard good things about it and it has been suggested to me before when I say I kinda like The Missing Link. Will give it a chance, some day. :) But I don't like Rage much overally. Some Avenger stuff, and then TML as said. That's about it. --- Goldberg while in the WWE, or earlier? Either way, he was. :P I think he never really lost a match. Maybe twice in his career. :D My love goes to ~2001-03 WWE, with "The King of the World" Chris Jericho being the best asshole ever in televized entertainment! :D
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Lionheartattack
Ha, The Missing Like is the only Rage album to this day that I've listened and actually liked! :D Some early Blind Guardian albums could compete, but I'm not saying they're in similar style to Reaper. Something like Accept's Restless and Wild isn't as good as The Reaper, but somehow, The Reaper for me seems to parody them all at once and still basically come out on top! :D And whoa, we might have the exact similar Digger top 3! Although I can't say for sure, since Tunes of War could be there for me as well. -- RW's comeback I won't even listen to. Usually I don't bother with pre-release sound clips, but I'm lucky I did this time around. Thus I knew not to bother with the album. It will not be a part of my view of Running Wild. :) -- My metal history you can still read from my About Me, although I've planned on rewriting that section for years, if not for anything else but to make that text a bit more readable. But there you can still read about my first head = blown metal feelings. :)
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Lionheartattack
Got to say I really like the video you linked to the Digger box! And what pleases me even more is that only this second time through, the song Home at Last itself already sounded MUCH better to me! I already suddenly consider it pretty good now. o_O And I think it will only keep on getting better in all its catchiness. And now I found other nice parts after all even other than the chorus; even liked Ritt's solo, it had those Domine/The Clans... like things in it after all! Not bad! I should never judge any song after just one listen. --- That said, I feel like hyping The Reaper album now. Can there be more "German" sounding speed metal album? :D It has everything! Wacky intros and lyrics, those "(AL)RIGHT!" and related shouts to open the song, very German sound and style all in all, and only killer songs, or at least good in all their wackiness. The Reaper -- the ultimate German speed metal album? :D
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Lionheartattack
Yes, he's pretty basic in studio I give you that. Not much of a miraculous sound nor unique drumming. It was on stage where I felt he had a persona that showed, and I liked him there. And he was so damn accurate in that basic power drumming, and it looked so easy! Yeah, judging from Kai not really commenting it deeper in that one interview/question referred on those forums, I think something might've happened as well. I just randomly found a Chris Bay comment that after all he's still great friends with Dan and only left because the GR+FC workload was too much. So, maybe he'll soon be back in Freedom Call at least? ^_^ Boy I'd love that! And yup, Henjo and Dirk are more essential for the GR sound. I think that Dan has been a better songwriter than Uli as of late, though. Some of Uli's newer material that I've heard is very lazy and anemic, whereas Zimmermann's songs have lately been pretty much on par with Henjo's and Kai's, IMO!
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Lionheartattack
And do I even need to add that it's a crying shame because I loved his performing style and showmanship. Also a very good song-writer. Liked his backing vocals too, at least they're original. :D Accurate and so carefree drummer that made the playing look very easy, and I don't think I've never heard him play wrong or even botch a fill!
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Lionheartattack
Funny you mention it, I am just reading about it from a Finnish metal forum as we speak. :/ Michael Ehre from Metalium is their new drummer. http://www.gammaray.org/forum.html?func=view&catid=24&id=19766&view=entrypage#19766
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