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Auland
There's a group based in my city called VALIS that's pretty cool, I really like their song Black Carbon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdc-F8T44KY As far as discovering new artists goes I comb through bandcamp a lot, and my friends tell me about local stuff going on. I think alfa matrix and metropolis records are still okay too. From what I've heard doom metal is pretty cool, funny because the guy I'm seeing at the moment really likes depressive black metal and I never would have guessed just by looking at him...still looking forward to Godflesh after all that postponement. The Numan gig was amazing, there were two openers and it felt like an eternity waiting for him but his set was outstanding. I've still not listened to his most recent album and I was hoping I'd be blown away by the performance of those songs...and I was! The light set-up was really cool too, that really tied up everything nicely. The audience was pretty diverse too, I like seeing people who obviously listened to
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Auland
I go to the same club once a month to dance and half of the music is post-punk/gothic/darkwave etc. but the other half is aggrotech shite. Sarah the DJ isn't to blame, the night is request-driven and more people love harsh industrial than other genres nowadays and aggrotech/futurepop = traffic on the dancefloor. Since the liquor laws in the states are uptight I can't go to any other club around town, but even so the alternatives are pretty much industrial, industrial, industrial. I never thought I'd see the day where I resented industrial. There's a night called Machina every few weeks or once a month and that's oldschool EBM and new wave stuff, which I'm looking forward to going to once 21 rolls around, and a shoegaze event that I'll try too. I have friends that DJ cool music but the sad fact is that the "established" goths just kind of hang around talking and drinking. but the main thing for me is that harsh industrial makes me want to curl up and never dance again.
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Auland
Well I made a long shout but this ass-backwards site decided to block it because I linked a blog. There's a blog called gothindustrialebmsynth (creative name) that posts cassette rips of old-school EBM and dark oddities. Sound quality is not good but the amount of content is sufficient. I get kind of depressed listening to that stuff at times, mainly because I really enjoy some of the artists contributing to the tapes and I just wonder where they are today. I've been listening to a weird mix of things, a lot of stuff in my library that I haven't paid much attention to in recent years, and some recent albums by artists I'm just now getting into. It's a shame last fm will be removing the traditional radio, I see no reason to subscribe anymore and I'm poor as shit anyway...but I did get to see Gary Numan live last night and it was the best concert I've been to so far.
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Auland
I've been distracted by everything that I precisely shouldn't be distracted by. So many things have changed in my life without me realizing it (or at least without considering the scope). I kind of miss pre-college me who consistently communicated with people online and off and didn't have to worry about actually staying afloat. also I had made plans to move farther north where it's cheaper but it looks like I'm staying in chicago, which means more strained employment but more friends and recreation.
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jonnaa
Niin näin sattumalta heidän facebook sivuilla, että Turun liikkeeseen haetaan työharjoitteluun ja se palkaa tosiaan tuli Kelan kautta. Ehkä sinne pääsee vielä tulevaisuudessa uudestaan töihin??? Se olisi kyllä todella huippua!!! :-) PS. Ostin tänään Ministryn uuden levyn ja vielä en osaa oikein sanoa mitään. Ei tämä mikään kovin kummoinen ole, mutta on näissä joissakin biiseissä ihan siistit soundit, mutta biisien sanat ei ole kovin kummoiset. Pakko sanoa, että Nine Inch Nailsin uusin levy hakkaa tämän valitettavasti.
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jonnaa
Moi! :-) Vastaan nyt siitä levykauppa jutusta ja sori, kun on kestännyt vastata.. Olihan siellä ihan mukavaa olla töissä, mutta välillä hommat oli liian stressaavia. Siinä täytyy osata pitää monta asiaa yhtäaikaa kasassa jos esim. tulee paljon asiakkaita tiskin taakse ja jokainen kyselee levyjensä perään tai ostaa monta levyä samaan aikaan. Välillä sinne saattoi myös tulla esim. kännisiä asiakkaita ja aina niistä ei saanut selvää, mitä haluavat ostaa. Niissä tilanteissa täytyy osata vaan olla rauhallinen ja ei saa stressata/hermostua liikaa. Mulla ainakin oli välillä se, että jännitin niitä asiakkaita liikaa, mutta oli siinä tiskin takana kuitenkin tosi mukavaa olla, kuin pelkästään vaan siellä kellarissa koko ajan. Asiakkaiden kanssa oli kiva aina välillä jutella musiikista. Kävin itseasissa tänään ÄX:ssä ja tuli haikea olo, kun en ole enää siellä töissä. Se on jännää, kun osa minusta haluaisi olla siellä vielä ja osa taas ei :-)
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Auland
I just listened to Echogenetic earlier, and the EDM-influence is very evident but it works to their favor to create a cyberpunk-type club atmosphere. I think with their AirMech album they got too much flack for sounding like "dubstep," they are just evolving...same with Skinny Puppy, Handover was considerably IDM as well as industrial, and I don't see the problem that as well. I don't know the general consensus on echogenetic. As far as the opposite case goes - artists sounding the same - that new Project Pitchfork album is predictable and disappointing in my opinion. Now I am waiting for Click Click's new album, and hoping it sounds like their later tense and atmospheric instrumentals. I am worried however that if Front 242 eventually get to making a new album it will sound forced.
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Auland
Sorry I've been kind of weird with not responding to shouts...had a bad time near the end of my time at the university and was working on transferring to a community college and moving into my own apartment. Interestingly enough one of my summer classes is Social Sciences, and we're talking about all that 'oppression and privilege' stuff between discussions on personality disorders. It's pretty objective overall but I still don't agree when the professor talks about how the U.S is a total patriarchy. One of the women in the class went off basically about how she deserves reparations....I'm just sitting there thinking, "who the hell is going to pay for all of that? and just because you're a certain skin color somebody owes you something? neither of us chose what race to be born with and we weren't there to witness the colonial slave trades so how is this logical?" I feel as if I express my views in that class I'll be accused of being pro-erasure when in actuality I'm just apathetic.
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SequenceC
Recently it's been sunny and warm, but the weather has generally been cold the past few weeks and very up and down. That sounds like a really unpleasant nightmare. I think I once had sleep paralysis, it was terrifying, I could open my eyes, but that was it, I couldn't move my body at all, even though I was conscious. I was also scared and may have been imaging noises.
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SequenceC
Can't remember if I mentioned this before, but years ago I used to play a Battlefield 1942 mod 'Finnwars,' it was really good, with historic battles covering Finland's involvement in the war. The thing I was most impressed with were the implementation of molotov cocktails and overhaul of tank damage and driving system (which had controlled both tracks, like in real life). Back then there was at least one server which was well populated during evenings and weekends. I was pretty much the only non-Finn there, and I remember learning a few words such as 'perkele.' I was yesterday watching an episode of 'Arne Dahl', (Swedish drama) and laughed when the Finnish guy shouted 'perekele!"
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Corrosive666
That Japanese metal sounds pretty awesome, but the cutesy-ness of it completely throws me off. Its good though, its got good driving energy. Bile isn't too bad. Its sounds like Dope, with less production.
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Auland
well on a lighter note that primitive race project should be interesting, all the musicians involved I enjoy. I didn't know people thought Heavy Metal was 'kind of bad' until I watched a review of it by somebody I forgot the name of on youtube. I always loved it for the great animation and music, I never really noticed or cared that the story was odd and disjointed.
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Auland
two men or two women can't get married. It's been proven they raise children just fine, it will not adversely affect the economy or anybody else's straight marriage family for that matter. It certainly won't influence more people to become gay or lead to kiddy-touching or bestiality marriage. I for one don't like marriage at all. I don't like it as a religious institution obviously but I also don't like how they get certain benefits while unmarried couples don't. I know a lot of people's response is just "well get married already!" but love doesn't last forever and divorce is a pain in the ass...but I wouldn't post some stupid political cartoon on facebook. Seeing so many liberal rants from my friends was a big factor in me becoming a centrist. Oh boy did I have a nasty argument with a feminist on facebook. I'm guilty of being a "fake tolerant" because I can't stand women who cry about oppression, that gets me way too mad.
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Auland
We all still have such a long way to go and the end goal is so optimistic yet seemingly unreachable. I agree with your opinion on tolerance being a two-way street, but then I have yet to see a smart argument against the legalization of gay marriage. Everybody's entitled to their opinion but that doesn't mean their opinion is automatically smart and has the obligation to be even considered by everybody. So some unassuming older man sitting on his rustic porch thinks two consenting same-sex adults shouldn't get married and weeps because his "values" are being disregarded. If somebody's "values" includes anything restricting somebody else's choices or freedoms I couldn't give any less of a shit for their values. Their values mean nothing to me. I agree a lot of the super-liberal cartoons that make the other side look like nothing but bumbling retards are ridiculous and rife with strawmen, but gay marriage is one thing I am completely tunnel-visioned on. There is no good reason that
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Auland
stop thinking about it after I get too deep into it. I know enough to realize that yes, a lot of crime is committed by minorities, but that doesn't mean minorities are all criminals. That really should be a no-brainer, but a lot of people on my mom's side of the family STILL think otherwise. Most of my good friends over the years have been non-white now that I think about it. It's not even because I actively seek out non-white friends, it just happens. I've been so ingrained in hispanic culture from my friend of 13 years and I've learned a lot along the way. lol that sounds like an intro to an anti-racism PSA. Well whatever, I hope that by the next century the world unites somehow and we all become humans, not white, not black, not canadian, not somalian, not even north american or european.
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Auland
I don't like the whole eugenics-related argument that non-whites are inherently predisposed to crime or disreputable behavior, but the correlation in america between race and crime can't just be ignored. The fact is that all races are racist, and there's such a wide economic divide causing high rates of frustration and depression...and the high poverty areas just happen to be concentrated with "minorities." And then there are so many factors for what makes non-whites in america so inordinately impoverished. Me and my mom had a really hard time for a while so I've been in many of those areas. At one point we lived in a poor area and I went to an elementary school that was at least 90% hispanic. This didn't bother me at all and it still wouldn't, but I did get picked on and singled out. Racist kids get what they know from their parents and the ignorance continues until somebody steps in and educates them. but when nobody does? I don't know, there are so many facets to the debate I just
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Auland
The place I'm moving to in the city is gentrified/bourgeoisie so there will be quite a few hipsters...maybe not necessarily all hipsters, but it is right in the middle of a university (that I'm not attending) and is just a relatively artsy spot. Me and two friends went to the Guitar Center near that area and there were a few skinny guys with full-sleeve tattoos and weird mustaches. But I'd much rather live in a moderately hipster area than the one I'm in now, where the crime rate is high and divide between the poor and trust-fund young people is much more noticeable. There are more "actual" record stores which is always nice, and they have industrial sections. Missed out on record store day but there's always next year, where I'll have more money anyway. I guess the U.S didn't really get any Front 242 releases? I would have seen it advertised around.
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Auland
being school sex-ed classes that are "abstinence centered" and don't even recommend using protection. In my case I never even had one in any of my Texas schools. I just hope young people get their unbiased pragmatic info from parents/on the internet instead. Hopefully this conservative outlook on human needs dies by the next few generations. There was also a documentary about a country that has a very positive outlook on teenage sexual behavior, where the only thing parents insist is that they use condoms. In fact they give them their own themselves. And guess what, they have one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates in the world. Problem solved. Oh well...
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Auland
I hope the EU doesn't kowtow to those ultra-religious activists by changing laws to best fit their beliefs. It's one thing to be accepting of a group's culture, which is good, but it's another to cower under religious influence since it's all bullshit anyway. My friend crashed last night at my place and when we were walking from the train we talked about the state of sexual acceptance in the U.S. Not necessarily just gay people getting the short end of the deal but sex in general, like how we have two warring sides. The media is ultra-sexualized to attract attention by tapping into peoples' most basic urge, and the church is trying to oppress it as much as they can and is perpetuating a poisonous opinion of sex. So in the end what does it achieve, a seriously repressed and confused country where the teen pregnancy rate is ridiculous because on one hand they watch all this stuff on TV and movies and on the other they're told that they need to practice abstinence. And the most extreme
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Auland
Exactly, just because a foreigner commits a crime in one country that would have been "permissible" in theirs doesn't mean they should get a free pass. I know laws are laws and morality is a sliding scale for different types of people but I honestly think the world should become more uniform in that regard. Basically killing should be the number one thing that isn't allowed. Killing, rape, physical stealing (robberies, theft of property, mugging...). It's bullshit when religious people in america get a pass doing shit to their kids because it's "in the bible" or whatever. Though there have been recent cases against parents whose children ended up dying of illness because they chose faith healing instead of easy medical care, which makes me optimistic. I can only imagine what the cultural clash is like in european countries with a high percentage of political refugees and islamic extremists. Two different worlds colliding, the conservative religious and the liberal metropolitan.
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Corrosive666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=a5OntdZxNrE Found something interesting. I dont know what to think lmao.
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Auland
I liked the A Split Second page on facebook a few months ago but I haven't seen those videos. The third one, it almost looks like Malin Åkerman (silk spectre II from the Watchmen movie)..? Every video I've seen so far for their music has been so campy. 'Flesh' started out relatively normal before the woman made that "AAAAAH" face, I kind of laughed at that point. ...and, through my years of living in the supposed "ghetto/country" of Texas and months of working in the grocery store I've never seen as many crazy people, at worst just those who are complacent in their obesity and/or "hood" reputation. Not much racial violence at all either. The more I talk to people of different European countries the more I get the notion that islamic and general racial violence is increasing. Just like Australia has their "aboriginal crime" I guess, though I guess that's different. Well, the U.S does still have that "MEXICANS ARE TAKIN OUR JERBS" mentality somewhat in the south.
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Auland
I was watching one of the youtube "talk" channels I'm subscribed to and she was describing how in Toronto there's an unbearable amount of hipsters, which saddens me because I was planning on living there some day. Liking obscure music shouldn't make one a hipster, a poor attitude towards obscurity should. That and the stupid urge to compete with everybody else on who did what first. In that regard I think Chicago isn't a bad city, at least wherever I travel the only annoying people seem to be the bar-hoppers, sports fanatics and slow-walking tourists. the leather jacket I mainly wear now was meant for either boys or petite women, I'm not sure. It just has some of the pins I've collected over the years, 3 of them being Front 242. I painted a glow color over the three seams that run down in the back, and I'm not sure if the cat patch glows too.
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Auland
weather and thus my music is affected too. Some of the time. When it's really sunny outside and it's the time of day where the rays hit me right through the window I get lethargic and annoyed. When it's raining I like to listen to "happier" music, or whatever I discern to be happy. Certain songs I associate with rain though, like "Parallel" and "Vanttool" by The Black Dog. When there's a lot of lightning, Amplifier \3/ by MorF and Stormtrigger by C-Tec.
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Auland
The definition of 'hipster' has been dragged through the mud and transformed for over 50 years now. On the other hand, so has the word "troll." While 'hipster' has become increasingly pejorative, 'troll' has become more of a compliment among certain circles but both words have mostly lost their meaning. So if somebody listens to nothing but relatively unheard of music they're apparently a hipster, and if somebody has an unpopular dissenting opinion they're apparently a troll. Great. My 7 day artist total looks weird as shit though. I'm trying to find some adhesive for my leather jacket. I guess the safety pins for my one patch hold it up sufficiently but it just doesn't feel right. It's an embroidered patch of an arched x-rayed cat, because it was the only one I liked when I shopped. Oh, found it - https://www.whitbypandemonium.co.uk/images/XRay-Cat-Patch.jpg I agree with the weather and music correlation but for me it goes through a middleman, like my mood is affected by the
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Auland
I knew a girl in high school who was completely obsessed with the joker in general, new and old-school. I never saw a lot of Crow obsession, I guess that was before my 4 years. Yeah, Jim Jones was the guy who led the Peoples Temple and eventually created the Jonestown living community...eventually leading the mass suicide with the poison kool-aid. It doesn't say how much the vinyls will cost, and I don't have much money at all. I'm assuming it's something astronomical like 80 bucks per or more. I could get Systemisch from a discogs seller for around 20, and it's the original clear vinyl release. I can just sense that people think I'm a hipster just for buying vinyl and listening to all sorts of "weird" music...does that really make one a 'hipster'? I stopped making fun of people listening to popular music after I quit being 14 years old.
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Auland
There's definitely a gravitation towards artists that have died, like posthumous worshiping. Take Kurt Cobain for example, so many teenage girls wearing the smiley face Nirvana tees because they're simply aware of the name and the history it has. Then when Heath Ledger died, there were tons of Joker shirts and Joker merchandise and Joker/Heath Ledger worshiping. And not to mention Sid Vicious and his "punk martyr" status...I think death obscures a lot of history in itself. I used to be fascinated with psychopaths too, but then it shifted to cult leaders which remains to this day - especially Jim Jones. I had no idea Record Store Day was a thing. I've been to a few "real" music stores here, but never bought vinyl because I couldn't find the artists I wanted to buy vinyl of. I couldn't even find any Foetus CDs. I'm reading the line-up right now, and I'm about to cry because my two favorite Oval albums will be released, and there are a ton of participating stores in Chicago.
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Auland
The riffs in that wumpscut song almost sound as if they're fully synthesized. Lots of VST plug-ins out there that simulate electric guitar sounds very well...don't really know though. On an unrelated note I love that spooky red font the uploader used. So original. So many music videos for goth/EBM songs are corny and ridiculous. Not like camp horror, but really just embarrassing. I always think of "Reich mir die Hand" by Blutengel and "TZDV" by Faderhead...and just cringe. The songs themselves are cool (maybe because they're played so much at the club I go to that I've subconsciously "accepted" them into my mind) but I have this scenario in my head where the director is playing a joke on them. I think Angelspit's video for Vena Cava is pretty neat though.
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