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EnderBro1945
Everybody knows the so bad it's good cover of Theli but Jesus the cover to A'arab Zaraq Lucid Dreaming is genuinely up there in the worst album covers I've seen in my life
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FjordSweetFjord
Recently played Sita Arha and Les Fleurs du Mal and still fully enjoy those two albums, very unique and great melodies :)
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Vicarious_Lord
About halfway through the album and it sounds like they've recaptured what they had from Lemuria/Sirius B and prior. That slightly muddy mix plus style is so great.
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FjordSweetFjord
I like all their material (beloved anarchist was a bit much...) but enjoyed both Levitan 1-2
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Vicarious_Lord
We're on the same page there with everything you said :) As for Beloved Antichrist, Turn From Heaven was likeable, but the subsequent tracks not so much. The length of the album meant a general watering down in quality, I found.
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WiseParanoia
No, not at all. It's nothing like Lemuria or their old records. Leviathan 2 is a total disappointment, its one of their weakest, most boring and uninspired album, im definitely not looking forward for the last chapter. This new trilogy is looming once again as an idea probably too ambitious. They throwed that one too fast, and the result is lame. Gothic Kabbalah is the last real good Therion for me, where the magic was still there.
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EmeraldIsland
Listening to Blood of Kingu after reading the Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation Myth is a whole new Experience
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fetus_goulash
Euronymous in an interview from '92: 'And the matter of THERION, who is the worst of all swedish bands, we have a special message to them. If they dare to came to Norway and play LIFE METAL, we are going to kill them. The whole of Norways Black metal population is going to be there with knifes.'
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Adalgoth
in the Norwegian (and not only) scene at that time, this was a normal attitude towards the bands who claimed to be black/death metal, but were writing political lyrics (like "Morbid Reality" or "Genocidal Raids"). the down-to-earth approach to writing the lyrics in general was seen as something influenced by hc/punk scene, which ethos was alien (if not outright hostile) to extreme metal genres' ethos
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CorDarei
Gave 'Leviathan' a few spins and it's more than decent. I feel half of the album makes a very good impression, a 1/4 is fillerish and the other 1/4 just ok. I really, really dig 'The Leaf on the Oak of Far' though, this thing got stuck in my head. Overall more than what I expected for a band that's way past its peak imho
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Enot990
Я бы сказал, что это едва ли не единственная не позорная симфо метал группа. По крайней мере, в их случае эта симфо приставка оправдана, в отличие от всего остального бабомитала с помпезными клавишами который обычно так называют. Им хотя бы были присущи некая строгость и академизм, которые их выделяли из остальной симфы. А ранняя дэзуха так вообще разъёб.
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dougm
after the challenging multiple listens of beloved antichrist, the 2nd cd is still a chore to get through, leviathan is a lighter fare and easier to digest. but i think the standout song and vocal performance is Die Wellen Der Zeit. Taida Nazraić might not be lori lewis opera but the gut wrenching emotion that she puts in makes me weepy.
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djjoeChelin
Of Darkness... is one of the most underrated albums of this band, is pure Death Metal in its finest essence, still can't believe this band went to more commercial sound like Symphonic Metal. I wished, there could me more bands like old Therion, maybe the most close representation to that sound is Tiamat old school albums.
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Nachtfrostt-
Their death metal stuff was really good. Darkthrone's first album is also an example of a band doing some truly cool death metal before switching to another genre.
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Nachtfrostt-
Meh, the further they go the more they switch focus from melodies to vocals and imo it sounds ever more uninspired. They used to produce absolutely enchanting and marvelous melodies that get stuck in your head for years, and now they are too focused on singing with music being just a background for it.
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Vicarious_Lord
El Primer Sol is the standout on a chaotic album. Felt some of the tracks could have been done better, mostly due to being too simple at times and some vocals that really don't fit their sound. Nice to hear Mats Leven's voice in their music again though.
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Borreh
I didn't expect much but Leviathan is a big, dumb, fun album that's pretty much exactly what I needed at this point. Is it as good as their older material? Not in life, the level of songwriting ain't even close to their peak era. But that doesn't stop the new songs to have an incredibly high fun factor which keeps me returning to it on and on again.
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Baldurs_Tod
To me, Thomas Vikström don't really fit for Therion as composer and vocalist both. Everything he does sounds too plastic, too mainstream, too much pop-friendly, as if I'm listening to some Elvenking. I said it before and I will say it again: nothing will beat the occult songwriting of Niemann brothers.
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Baldurs_Tod
I agree with you. But I had some kind of argue about this with Chris in comments on his Facebook page where he wrote that, I quote "[...] there is no significant connection between Niemann involvement and you liking the songwriting. If Niemanns would have stayed in the band, only two songs would have been different on Sitra Ahra and a few scenes in Beloved Antichrist." Probably, he is just being kinda jealous that it's his band, but some people appreciate more other people's efforts rather than his.
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Nachtfrostt-
Plastic is maybe too harsh of a word, but they are definitely much, MUCH more vocals focused nowadays, especially clean vocals, and I can't say it did them good at all.
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FjordSweetFjord
LOVE the new record! I'm a fan of all their work and this is a great edition to their legacy, very excited to keep it going!
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TheCandyMan666
Damn, Leviathan is really pretty good. I honestly wasn't expecting this, as I didn't got into anything after Gothic Kabbalah.
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Pam-param-pam
Вот как в школе услышал, так и не могу слушать другой симфо-метал. Любовь к ним навсегда.
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ManojoDeDolores
Leviathan...maybe is fan service as Christofer said but its really good, is a new Therion´s classic, for sure
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ManojoDeDolores
For me is not their best album, but it´s a masterpiece, simply beautiful work
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FjordSweetFjord
I love Fleurs all the way through, very brave record for them to make and wow did they pull it off. Glad you're a fan aswell!
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EmeraldIsland
Birth Of Venus Illegitima always take me to one of these ancient temples in the past where Venus culitest of worshipers headbang while their high priestess sings...
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Baldurs_Tod
I adore everything by Therion from Theli to Gothic Kabbalah, but since Sitra Ahra Therion began to fall... and is falling further and further with everything it does since then, and there are no signs of return.
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Baldurs_Tod
It's not about just music. The musicians that Cristhofer hired, the singers, the visual style of the band, the whole concept of Les Fleurs du Mal — "questionable" is the weakest of the words that I have for all that.
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Takkeri
Super hyped up by August Brutal Assault gig. I was afraid it would be just Beloved Antichrist, but I checked their May setlist quickly and it seems to be basically formed for me. Playing widely from their repertoire throughout but skipping a lot of stuff I don't like that much... Hope August will still have a similar setlist. The gig is going to be so damn good, i'll probably end up disappointed cause I'm expecting too much. BRB, re-listening most of Therion discography.
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Lyciummusic
Christofer should look at this page and ask himself why is everybody listening mid-era Therion.
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Lyciummusic
I won't even bother explaining dude. You can go to reviews if you are really looking for it. https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Therion/94
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EmeraldIsland
Simply because these goody better Albums in comparison to the latest were composed at times when he was more young and way less burnout in his energy also that era was full of good coming bands and albums so the environment was too energetice with new ideas yet original in their presentation.
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CotBayun
This is true for literally every other band old enough to have "eras". Nightwish. Iron Maiden. Of all Black Sabbath, people seem to listen only to first three albums (not even Dio era, which was so awesome!). As for Therion, top 10 includes two Fleurs de Mal songs and one Gothic Kaballah, which is much more than one could hope for.
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RussianMeloman
После Therion все эти современные клонированные симфоник-металические группы воспринимаются со скрипом.
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vonNachtmahr
Wenn man sonst nichts mehr zusagen hat macht man sich halt drüber lustig das Englisch nicht die Muttersprache von einem ist. Volltrottel.
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vonNachtmahr
Du kennst anscheinend nicht den Bullshit den CAVE_ALLEGORY bei anderen Bands über Frauenfeindlichkeit abgelassen hat. Und wenn das "Dummkopf" dein Niveau ist spricht das auch nicht gerade für dich.
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EmeraldIsland
try Wacken 2001 from Celebrators of Becoming. Also Vivon Live from Poland those are much better .
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