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Led_Zayatts
Не, нахуй этот сайт, там какой-то совсем отмороженный контингент) Есть поадекватней место с переводами?)
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Led_Zayatts
Запостил я перевод La Rossa. Не прошло и полминуты, как появляется комментарий: "странно -не переводить название.." (я оставил дословно "Ля Росса"). У меня и так уже бомбило от ошибочных замечаний и споров на сайте, поэтому я резко ответил в духе "В оригинале итальянское выражение в английском тексте, но легко увидеть справа новый перевод и полезть искать, к чему придраться, прочитав только название". Он (или она, не знаю) сразу такой: "Ой, что за хамство" и плюс подметил реальный недочёт перевода. Я ответил, что не люблю, когда люди пассивно-агрессивно пишут, а потом удивляются резкой реакции. Ну и признал реальный недочёт, надеясь, что он успокоится и отстанет. На что он сказал, чтобы я "не вякал" (перейдя уже с Вы на ты) и исправлял, а он позовёт модераторов))) Мой предыдущий спор с редактором сайта мне никакого удовольствия не принёс, поэтому я решил, что нафиг мне это надо и потёр всё, чтобы меня не могли если что вдруг забанить, оставив переводы)
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Led_Zayatts
Мне друг, которому я также жаловался на эту ситуацию (потому что бомбило у меня сильно)), решил, будучи ничем не занятым во время самоизоляции, запилить сам платформу, на которую я мог бы выложить переводы (по сути, простенький блог, где так же в две колонки текст оригинала и перевода), так что я пока жду подвижек с его стороны) Мне это в любом случае не сильно надо, потому что я переводы исключительно из собственного интереса делаю, и потенциально терпеть хуйню от модераторов, которые сами ни черта не соображают, я не горю желанием) Да и комментарии от обычных пользователей были не лучше) Так себе удовольствие) Если бы я не был в то время в относительно подавленном состоянии, я бы плюнул и потёр всё гораздо раньше)
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Led_Zayatts
Блин, как у меня бомбит от тамошнего редактора, который занимается переводами Хэммилла) У самого банальные ошибки в переводах, которые я не лезу поправлять, потому что я, естественно, не стану спорить с редактором сайта, но даже в месте, где я обратил внимание на очевидную ошибку в исходном тексте, он считает, что прав, потому что так услышал, и похуй на любые аргументы) (Да, мне особо некому на эту тему пожаловаться))
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Led_Zayatts
Скинул на lyricstranslate пару своих старых переводов Хэммилла после того, как увидел Ваш комментарий про сайт) Я так и не понял, правда, приветствуются ли там не дословные переводы - в правилах сказано, что рассчитано на то, чтобы обучающиеся языку могли без труда понять логику перевода.
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UberAnanas
Well, of course you aren't going to like every German singing artist or band, but the song came into mind when I thought of German music. I knew it was slightly obscure so that's why I thought I'd recommend it. But yeah, I have to admit I had to get used to the dissonance in that song, now I think it's one of the most powerful tracks ever written in German. I've been meaning to check Dornenreich out, but perhaps I'll wait til I'm more into metal again.
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UberAnanas
You talked about liking a lot of German music, and I was just thinking about whether I like some of it or not. The only artist I can think of that has songs sung in German is Soap & Skin. She's a Singer/Songwriter but in the more obscure and dark category. You might like her actually, so I recommend her song "Vater". I think that's one of her only German songs though.
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UberAnanas
Well, musically speaking I like Opeth a lot more than Savatage, as I think Opeth have better material all around and have a sound that appeals more to me than Savatage's. But both of the bands stay interesting as opposed to other metal / rock bands. I go back to their music more than others.
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UberAnanas
Oh and - yes, I'm looking forward to the band's reunion. Though I'm not sure the new material (if they're making any) will sound something like the music I like most from them.. I guess we shall see :)
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UberAnanas
I got the vinyl really cheaply in a record store last year and I was really happy I got it. So, that picture basically came forth out of absolute excitement of owning it. I haven't listened to Coma Ecliptic yet, but I think that's because I haven't paid attention to Between the Buried and Me for a while. I'm actually quite 'out of' the metal if you know what I mean, it's just not playing that much anymore. I will make sure I hear the new record though, and I will give you my thoughts on it once I do. And while we're on it, Savatage is actually one of the only metal bands I can keep enjoying, because of how unique and special (in terms of atmosphere in the music) they sound. Opeth is another example, but even Opeth hasn't had that much playing time for me.. I will probably jump into metal in a bit, I've just had this non-metal period for a while. Cool to talk again, it'd been a while!
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UberAnanas
Had the same issue with Heritage when it came out.. I - at first - thought it was a terrible album.. Took me a little while to like it as much as I do now. I'll see when it comes out.. I think I'll just order the CD / Blu-ray version, much more enjoyable in all situations; rip it, put it on my iPod, stuff like that :)
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UberAnanas
Good that your life if getting back on track now, music is always the best companion for every situation you're in.. It's often much better than having a bunch of people around, atleast that's what I think.. I'll have to decide whether I really want to order the vinyl version of the album though. There's this blu-ray / CD version with necklace too. The problem with vinyl is that I can only play it when I'm close to my vinyl player, and that's not always ideal. Anyway, I'll wait for the actual release day of the album, even though people have been posting about the album on Facebook the last 2 days: ''IT'S FANTASTIC!'', ''PALE COMMUNION IS AMAZING''. I'll have to withstand the temptation a little longer ;)
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UberAnanas
I meant to say, I don't think I want to spoil the album for myself before it's released :)
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UberAnanas
Haven't heard it yet.. I don't plan to either, I think. I'm going to be ordering a special edition vinyl of the album soon, comes with this really cool necklace aswell :) That'll be my first ever piece of Opeth merchandise. Anyways, how have you been? It's been a while, haha
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Zigeunerjunge
yeah... guess we've got some great metal bands here in germany - so as russia have also. I've got to check your library by time :D
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UberAnanas
Problem is, I listen to a lot of different music and usually it's hard for me to recommend you bands / artists since I probably already recommended them or I ran out of things to recommend.
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UberAnanas
Hmm, strange, I still have this annoying problem where I hear a song by an artist or band on youtube, download the album, and then instead of listening to the album listen to the song I heard on youtube all the time. Luckily I usually tell myself not to do that, but it stills happens pretty often.
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UberAnanas
Yeah I used have the exact same problem where I could only enjoy one song by a band, I guess I have progressed with listening, but my main problem is that I sometimes don't try hard enough to get into some bands / artists and I don't listen to a lot of other stuff that I have found / got recommended to me. I usually listen to things I'm already comfortable with, which can sort of be a bad thing.
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UberAnanas
You're right though, I sometimes don't get certain bands but if I hear something worth while I will listen to their stuff more to eventually like them (possibly). So to me it's either I like it, I don't like it, or I feel I need to listen to the music more to fully understand it. (For example with the folk singer and harpist Joanna Newsom)
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UberAnanas
Well as I've said before, prog can be on and off for me, usually it's on, simply because I love prog, but some bands are just not my thing. I'm not sure whether I really enjoy Ayreon just because it's always a bit too much I feel. It's always gargantuous albums with crazy amounts of songs and crazy length. While I love long songs and albums that are a bit overdone, Ayreon always feels a bit too much and I can never find the right time to listen to the stuff. Also, I'll make sure to check more POS material out, because I love The Perfect Element and Remedy Lane. Anyways, recommending me anything is the best way to go because I just have to hear the stuff and either like it or dislike it. That's how music works in the end, right? :)
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UberAnanas
What exactly do you mean with 'who motivates BTBAM'? Don't really listen to BTBAM anymore to be honest, but they are a pretty good band nonetheless. They get a lot of hate because the fans think they are the most deep band ever with the most complicated music, however I think the music's still enjoyable. To be honest I'm not sure which bands are sub-prog. I would (maybe) include Agalloch in the sub-prog list, since I think they are sort of an atmospheric progressive black metal band. Arcturus could be named progressive, although they are more avant-garde.. There is this other project called The Gabriel Construct which is a quite cool prog rock / metal project, with an album released this year. Finally I would also include Jess and the Ancient Ones as a prog band (but only sometimes) they are (to me) a progressive doom metal band with loads of melody and keyboards. Awesome stuff (their EP this year was great!) anyway, blabla long posts. Those are bands I'd say are sorta 'proggy'.
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UberAnanas
Okay so, I have listened to almost every DT album, but I just think they are good, nothing more. They have some killer tracks but for me it's not a band I'll listen to all the time, haven't even checked out their last LP. About Opeth being prog, yes later on they also incorporated the keyboards more heavily which does make the sound a bit more proggy. And yes Black Rose could be considered Prog because of it's ridiculous length, however I think their old work is more death metal than prog. If there is one aspect in Opeth that makes them prog it would be the length of the songs and the progression of them. They have never been (except for Heritage) heavily driven by prog and to me have always been slightly influenced by it. I think I would label Opeth atmospheric progressive death metal! Haha
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UberAnanas
Also, I've began to question myself whether or not I'm HUGELY into prog. I do like quite a lot of prog bands like Spock's Beard, Rush, Savatage, Leprous, Porcupine Tree, Opeth (even though that's not really prog), Steven Wilson, Tool and The Flower Kings, but prog rock / metal needs to be just right for me. I do really like experimental music and progressive music overall, it's just that prog can be overproduced or include vocals I don't like. Or it just happens to have a lot of parts in songs I'm not that into. I usually love prog, but I just can't enjoy some bands.
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UberAnanas
I think Dream Theater is a good band, I think Images and Words and Awake are awesome albums, but overall I don't think they are THAT great. I'll try to get into that Ayreon album and the Queensrÿche album when I remind myself of it, got a lot of stuff to still go through though. Have you ever tried getting into Kayo Dot or maudlin of the Well? maudlin's Bath and Leaving Your Body Map are classic albums to me.
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UberAnanas
Oh yeah, stupid me, I was already wondering whether it was Beethoven or Bach. But yeah that album is pretty enjoyable.
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UberAnanas
Yep, I guess that's just something I'll have to get used to. You have certainly listened to them a great deal more than i have. Don't know anything about JOP, should maybe look it up soon, see what it sounds like. A thing I'm certainly sure of is that I dislike Trans-Siberian Orchestra. I just can't hear anything worthwhile in that music. Only album I sorta like is that Bach-inspired album they made.
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UberAnanas
What I meant was, for example on 'Hall of the Mountain King', the title track, I find that the vocals bother be a little bit.
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UberAnanas
Hello oncemore! :) I'd just like to thank you for recommending me Savatage a while back. I absolutely love Gutter Ballet (Except She's In Love) but songs like When the Crowds are Gone are just absolutely amazing and instant classics for me. I really like Poets and Madmen aswell. Overall the only problem I face with Savatage are sometimes the overdone vocals (When Oliva goes just too crazy haha)
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UberAnanas
In that case, I dislike the Slovenian Devil Doll's singing / speaking in the songs. I'm kind of picky on vocals so that's why I probably will not get into them. I actually do like the American Devil Doll haha.
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UberAnanas
Well this is strange, I just noticed there are 2 Devil Dolls, and that I've been listening to the American singer Devil Doll. Did you mean the slovenian prog rock band?
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UberAnanas
Oh and by the way, if you like that kinda music at all, you should check out the one-man melodic doom metal project from Marius Strand, called The Fall of Every Season. His album Amends is incredible! Only problem with it is that the mix is a bit weird from time to time or there's a bit of white noise. But I definitely think you should check it out, in a way it reminds me of Opeth. (Emotion in the songs)
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UberAnanas
I can dig music before the 90's but the problem is that I'm more interested in music made now, I don't think at all that music from the 70's, 80's or 90's is better than the music made now, in fact, I can almost say I like music from 2000-present more than anything else. For other genres than metal it's different, I like a lot more Rap music from the 90's and early 2000's. Also, I have probably heard those Savatage tracks, but only like 1 time, I will listen to them more soon :)
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UberAnanas
Might give those artists a try again, yeah. I really don't like Iron Maiden though, just doesn't do anything for me really.. I like Savatage's take on power / heavy metal way more, even though I don't like some Savatage songs - for example She's In Love, There In the Silence, etc. but songs like Morphine Child, Hounds, Stay With Me A While, Gutter Ballet, When The Crowds Are Gone and Of Rage and War make up for that. I might really want to check out that Devil Doll stuff again, as I'm quite eager to hear it oncemore.
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UberAnanas
Hey! It's been a while, wondering if you can recommend some new stuff :) (If you've found anything new)
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adriaan_gtr2
Not yet, but I'll do it very soon! Listened to Father time and I like it, different from Savatage, but also good, like 70's! hahaha
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